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Christians and Morality

Christians and Morality
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It’s 2AM and I’m just getting back in from Juste Lounge; had a great time; I linked up with an ol friend from HU, we used to be good peoples but she had to move to LA; nevertheless, tonight we had a good time.  “Slow Motion 4 me” that’s the track we vibed the most to.

But anyways, I’d just finished listening to my voice messages….Gal was crying…why?

Last Tuesday she inform me she just want to be friends(without sex) ……so on Thursday I asked her again and she gave the same reply…plus that I should go find another woman.  Confused at this point I just said, “OK”, I’ll respect your wishes and I wish you well. Then we said our good-byes.

If a woman tells me she no longer wants to be bothered, and then I won’t…I’ll just move on. Life too short to be spending it fussin’ and fightin’.

Now, I get this emotional phone call on my machine talking about how she miss being with me and making love to me and all that. Then she explains because of her religious beliefs she can no longer continue to make love to me.

Hmmmm….is this a guilt trip? If her beliefs are so important, then why she started and continue to have sex with me for 5 straight weeks? Why Christians think of morality after the fact than before? Is this morality a matter of convenience or manipulation? She claims to have these issues….

If she so moral, then she wouldn’t have jumped on me and rode me like I was Sea Biscuit at Hollywood Park 5 weeks ago. I do admit that we have great sex together. She on top of me, I on top of her, side by side, few times with me sitting on the chair and her straddle herself and sitting on me. We both gave oral sex…we both enjoyed that…..went to movies together, checked out several places together whenever we had time. We are very comfortable with each other. Well, at least she did express that to me.

Hmmm….she did say we acted like a married couple who really enjoyed each other…..maybe that’s it!

We’re not married…..

It’s only been 5 weeks….and I’m only beginning to know this woman….too soon to jump into something serious like marriage….sorry.

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  • Signifigant1
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    Well, to answer your question…we are all human and will fall into tempatation. She may very well be a Christian. Who are we to judge? Just know that if this is what she has decided, then it should be respected. The time that she spent with you was probably her falling into temptation and just commit an act of sin. We can not say when it is appropriate for one to make that decison in being celibate and actually committing him or herself to Christ. God will truly know where her heart is. Just respect her wishes…Blessings!

    • Mr. Prodg
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      And her wishes were respected…

  • DaDa
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    Sadly, i know quite a few people like this. They do all these sexual acts, drink liquor, etc but then all of sudden have an epiphany and realize their a christian! I say if u were that into your religion, u would have never engaged in such activities. But at the same time you’re human and have the right to enjoy yourself. Life is too short, at the end of the day only god can judge u.

    • Mr. Prodg
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      makes a lot of sense Dada…I personally know i am going to sin every single day, thats why i pray God in the AM and ask for forgiveness for everything i am going to do throughout the day

    • Eksqwizit
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      reminds me of when this dude used to pray before he had sex with me…right there in the middle of a freaking hotel room, he will pray…because it was his habit to pray before he went to bed…BEFORE WE HAVE SEX without being married..I was hiding in a corner waiting for that strike…skerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd!!!

    • Mr. Prodg
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      Lol @ prayin before before sex

  • jamie
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    First, I am a Christian. I love God with all my heart and I believe that Jesus died for my sins and resurrected and coming back. If you know me, you know I believe that. Second, I’m a grown woman who knows the consequences of my actions…I know if I kill,I’m goin to jail. If I smoke crack, I’m going to get addicted. If I have sex b4 marraige, there is a possibility of me getting pregnant or getting some form of disease.

    I’m not a virgin…and I’m not married. But I’m human and things happen . Maybe this girl felt she could not balance btw the two…I hope she knows God forgives her andloves her.

    • Mr. Prodg
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      what were you saying again Jamie….

    • jamie
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      Sorry :) I get too ahead of myself sometimes. All I am trying to say is that she is human. When you are christian, you’re not suppose to be placed on a higher pedistal to non christians. As long as she knows the consequences, its not up to us to judge her mindset

    • Mr. Prodg
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      Now I follow you Jamie

  • Maguie
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    I know that will be crazy for you!! Loll(that’s her belief and if you loved I think you would help her so she did what is best for her (not staying with you). I’ve learned that if you are a christian and you want to follow everything in the Bible find you a good christian person( which is hard 2 find) for the non believer would not helping a bit. So Blake move on also but I disagree where you said life is 2 short, I know it is ez for any men to find a woman to have sex but it’s hard to find someone for the rest of life if you see this way and that vice versa. So continue to do you for life is not short at all…lolll

    • Mr. Prodg
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      what love are we talking about? it was only for 5 weeks woman…i dont agree with a christian needing to find a christian mate in order to abstain from sexual activities…i dated a chick for 9 months, yes i did, and we didn’t do anything….would i do it again? hell nah, but i did….i respected that woman a lot

    • Eksqwizit
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      what does 5 weeks have to do with it? anyone can fall in love in a second…I am a huge believer in that…but men, scared little cats don’t…lol

      I have met so many couples who got married after 24 hours or 48 hours and are still married after 50 years together…unbelievable…and they always said “I JUST KNEW HE/SHE WAS THE ONE” used to happen a lot during the WW eras lol

    • Mr. Prodg
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      Well, she wasn’t the one

  • kattadakitten
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    One’s morality doesn’t derive from one’s faith. It’s a personal choice to which one should own up to instead of making moralitiy the issue or christinaity for that matter. My opinion!

    • Mr. Prodg
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      so your faith doesn’t have anything to do with your morals huh? ok!

  • kattadakitten
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    Maguie, a non Christian can respect a Christian belief with absolutely no problem the issue relies in making CRTAIN that the person RESPCTS you as a human being first and foremost. A good Christian can be as immoral as the the non Christian. MORALITY is a personal choice.

    • Mr. Prodg
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      i agree with Katt

  • kattadakitten
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    I am not saying that my faith has nothing to do with my morals. I’m saying that my morality and my christianity co exist but not as a result of one to the other. There exist some moral non christians and vice versa.

    For instance: I read about this pastor who wants to burn as many Qoran books on the 11th of this month as he can. A man of cloth. I’m not sure if morality plays a role in his decision but isn’t it pretty immoral to want to retaliate as such? Perhaps or maybe NOT

    • Mr. Prodg
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      Burning the Qoran is all about a man’s beliefs that the ppl who follow that religion shouldn’t be taken seriously and that they’re not righteous in the eyes of God…

      I saw this woman @ a club the other day and I was honestly shocked 2 see her there because this paticular woman is always grilling me about being @ the club and being so out there and here she was at 4am being pounded by 2 sumo wrestlers in the back of the club…so u think I’m going to take her serious ever again? I’m not judging her but who is she to judge my actions and call me?

  • kattadakitten
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    Where does the morality lie in married pastors having affairs with their fellow church members? Where has it disappeared to when these priest molest these youngsters?

    Morality is a personal choice.

    • Mr. Prodg
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      Yes morality is a choice but it has a lot to do with our faith in a higher being…I think.

    • Eksqwizit
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      wrong…it is to say that a non-christian lacks morals…

      don’t buddhists have morals, atheists have morals etc…

      morals are sets of principles and values….most believe it started within religion and associate it mainly to christianity…but not true…christianity is a young faith…morals existed prior to its existence

  • Touché Mack
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    I was messing with a female for a while before she one day told me that we couldn’t do it anymore. She stated that as a Christian, she had to follow ‘certain protocols’. I respected that and told her that I would it end it right there and then. Needless to say, we were back at it a half hour later. She would periodically make the same statement. Now, to me, I feel that this a form of manipulation. If the guy really likes the girl and loves the sex, he’ll change in order to be with her. Wrong! This is the same chick that smokes weed, indulges in Henny sipping, and loves getting head. At the end of the day, I thought it’d be best to leave her alone and let her get herself together. I don’t have time for games!

    • Mr. Prodg
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      Makes a lot of sense Mack; women sometimes feel like they can manipulate us and make us do certain ish. What they fail to realize is that the game doesn’t work that way and most dudes won’t put up with that bs…yes I’m digging you but please make up ur mind..ur going to a christian and accept that ur going to fail @ times or act like ur a christian and try 2 play me with ur nonsense

  • kattadakitten
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    It’s wednesday, have to run now. Be back later!

    • Mr. Prodg
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      Enjoy ur date night Katt

  • Maguie
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    @ katt I agree but if only it’s ez to find. Respect from the other partner in this way is hard. Their answers always like this: girl are you virgin? Are you the 1 that come to change the world? Sorry, I’ve been having sex since I was a kid so I cannot stay without doing it! So much excuses…now days people are just selfish and only think about themselves not the other partner. @ Blake nothing I will say will be ok for you because your believe is just stoke there and God have to come and change it. And trust me if it was even 5 years you will still think the same way. Sorry amour but it’s the truth! Lolll

    • Mr. Prodg
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      Maguie, do u believe the crap you be typing sometimes? I mean, are u telling me you’re a virgin? If not, did a guy coerce into having sex or u did it willingly? Please respond so I can ask a few more questions

  • Madame Marcelle
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    Can’t believe she pulled that card: no disrespect to her religious belief.

    I wonder if she was juggling situations and picked the wrong scenario which led her to that sad confession? Is she still trying to juggle knowing one offers more than the other?

    Only me, lol.

    • Mr. Prodg
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      Lol @Marcelle, only you

  • Maguie
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    Lolll, no I’m not virgin and that’s my lesson. A christian should not take a non christian because. Your believes are different. And to answer to the next question my ex-fiance was a non christian and he was my first and now I refuse to continue with him and it’s not about sex it’s some stuff that I don’t agree so I save you the other questions.

    • Mr. Prodg
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      @ Maguie, so did he force u into sex or u did it because u loved him?

  • Maguie
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    I did it because I loved him and now I regret it and it is 1 mistake I will never make again.

    • Mr. Prodg
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      @maguie, why do u think it was a mistake? I mean, if u were in love with this man then I don’t think u should be regretting it @ all.

  • lynn
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    let me get this straight, it took her 5 weeks to realize that what she was doing with you was wrong? my question is was she a virgin before you?

    • Mr. Prodg
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      Based on the hole, nope

    • Sourire
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      wow

    • Mr. Prodg
      on

      Very deep perspective Sourire

  • lynn
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    @ Maguie, there is no such things as mistake, only lessons. if you loved him for real, you did it because your heart told you, at that moment you was in love, you wasn’t forced, it was your personal choice, your decision.

  • Sourire
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    I am sorry but this sounds like a punk ass move to manipulate you.
    This has nothing to do with religion she’s playing games.
    If religion was so important to her you would have known her wishs/beliefs from day one.(not five weeks later).

    • Mr. Prodg
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      I knew you were trying 2 say something Sourire…ur point is valid

  • Maguie
    on

    @ Blake and Lynn true I should not call it a mistake however it was a lesson well learned.

    • Mr. Prodg
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      So does that mean you’re not longer having sex Maguie?

  • Maguie
    on

    loll, That I’m working hard on in I’m doing great so far…loll

  • Eksqwizit
    on

    TWIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIP

    MORALITY: CODE OF VALUES AND PRINCIPLES can be self defined based on whatever belief one so chooses…you two just do not share the same moral values, why are you judging her for?

    I, as a reader based on my morals may find you both to be overly sexed beings who need to be tamed and buried somewhere lol….however to each his her own

    LOL, In all seriousness, the reason we all establish moral codes is due to the fact that these codes are not ingrained, they are not natural…we define them and SEEK/FIGHT to abide by them because we believe them to be of VALUE to our spirit, peace of mind and may benefit us or society as a whole…THUS…IT IS A FIGHT that we have to constantly be ready to fight because these rules are against our nature…

    ex: I have been close to wanting to beat up some folks but I know it is wrong, I do and I fight against myself to not do it, not due to the consequences but because I know it is wrong to hit someone else…now, will that stop me from hitting someone who hurt me? nope…though my moral value/principle is against hitting…there are times there will be exceptions…as I hope it was the case for the young lady..based on THE story, I am thinking maybe YOU were the only one she was so weak over and not every single guy she met. If her behavior is the same with EVERYONE, she has not fully developed her belief in LIVING the principles she believed in…If you are her weakness, then yes, it can happen…there tends to be exceptions to a lot of rules…her mind is telling her “WRONG, WRONG, WRONG” but her body, her heart is telling her “it/he feels sooooooooo good”

    One of my exes, an addict used to tell me this: “bb I want to let go, I want to stop. I see what it is doing to me, my body, my family…but it feels so good. I crave it and after the hit then I cry, hating myself, my weakness and I keep promising I won’t do it again and then I do…” This is to say that principles/beliefs/moral codes/values are issues of the mind…our mind may know it, may accept it, may believe it but we have to fight against our nature to abide by our beliefs…we are naturally addicted/attracted to what is not good for us…try talking to all these folks trying to lose weight every damn year if they believe eating all that greasy food is good and they will say NO…yet they diet and go back, they diet and go back lol…

    WE ARE WEAK BY NATURE
    Our beliefs are the paths we WISH we could follow and STRIVE to follow but most times WE FAIL
    AND THEN WE GET BACK UP and try and try and try again…

    you think she wants marriage???? your perception of course…but it could be that she is just fighting against her own nature and you are caught in the middle of it all…we all have our own weaknesses don’t we! helas!

  • Nana
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    Im starting off by proclaimin my faith: im a christian and i strongly believe in sex after marriage. Now to answer ur question Blake: why do christians think of morality after the act not before?In a certain sense, christian morality especially sexual morality is quite similar to natural or commonsense morality. you dont need to be a Christian to understand why certain sexual practices are wrong…christians differ from unbelievers not so much in the understanding of what is moral as in their commitment to trying to live morally. And as a christian i understand that when i do wrong, im not only violating good sense but im also violating God’s law.

    Is the morality a matter of convenience or manipulation? it could be both, and there i agree with @Sourire last comment, if her religious beliefs were important she should have mentionned it to you from the get-go..now that’s a manipulative way,she probably wanted to get rid of you and her being religious was her best excuse. On the other hand,it can be a matter of convenience, like i said earlier, as a christian u should understand when u do wrong, in her case, if after 5 weeks she acknowledges her actions as a sin, she can always receive forgiveness from God as long as she confesses to him and she can maintain her purity from this moment forward..she cannot change what’s been done, but she can keep herself from any further damage by avoiding situations which might cause her to compromise her commitment to sexual purity because we are all exposed to temptation and it is something that some of us need to run away from if we practice chastity.
    And i also want to add that, for some people, abstaining from sex before marriage is a choice..for others it’s about religion but i personally believe that not only Godly but healthy as well, mentionally and physically..because first of all my heart is on the line and secondly,it saves me from STD’s and pregnancy.

  • kattdakitten
    on

    Married people do catch STD’s as well, some married CHRISTIANS even!

    I think when it comes to MORALITY, it’s best to not base it on CHRISTIANITY. One is so much older than the other in existence. There bounds to be some conflict. Before Christianity, what did folks based their morality upon?

    • Mr. Prodg
      on

      interesting viewpoint Katt

  • Toute
    on

    You probably know my point of view… but I’ll give you it again to illustrate how much her reaction makes sense (without going into my own personal baggage). A person has needs and desires that are pretty apparent and strong, no matter how irrational it may seem to you. That seemingly strong-willed person may abstain due to the factors of seduction not being provided, but they may fail when a circumstance or situation affects them to the point that abstinence is not an option. Its kinda like that cookie mom told you to not touch, but you saw it in the first place, knew the taste, thought about it for a while, and decided to taste it again and again, when mom wasn’t looking… but there is no mom (in this case, God) to hit you since, you’ve done it and the only thing that has made you guilty was a concept of morality you’ve grown accustomed to. Abstaining from sex really isn’t a muscle that many people in society exercise, because for some they don’t find the right person or just the right opportunity or even the interest doesn’t click, to even try that muscle of WILL POWER. Its not a choice they’ve made a lot to say its abstaining… its just you haven’t found that right person at that right time. So all this time we go around from place to place, until we find the right person, right opportunity (alone with the right conversation and vibes causing all inhibitions and fear of judgment to be submerged in the NOW (NOT THE FUTURE OF DAMNATION OR HEAVENLY PARADISE) just the thought of bodily warmth and the act of entering another person and helping to arouse each other proceed)… This tangible opportunity seems more substantial and potent, because frankly the body is there and the fear of God that that person purports to have is not as real in their life as he/she apparently thought, just the fear of society’s opinion of him or her once the person engages in an act that he/she have been taught to view as wrong under certain precise conditions (no wedlock). Practicing abstinence … is like being presented with a bottle of Hennessy as an alcoholic time and time again and fighting it with a sure and absolute view that the bottle will bring you more harm than the momentary elation you experience with that sip. You have to have a real tangible reason that you are persuaded to viewing this belief as true… society’s opinion is irrelevant in regard to your actions when you have that. Many people who have doubt about these things, who believe in moderation, who believe in the “life is short” mantra, who are “college-educated and philosophy-oriented”won’t become celibate because they will always out-think themselves to find a single bad reason to enjoy the moment of sexual bliss. What happens when mom (God or your conscience) comes in your room and explains you that eating the cookie was wrong, you start thinking about consequences of your actions, loss of family, friends, God’s peace, then you are guilty and you realize you have to make concessions to make good with your mom (God or your conscience). Sigh… I’m not psychologist or sociologist or priest or pastor… but so far that is what I’ve pulled from experience and my readings. It’s Pavlovian in nature. Condition response.

  • Toute
    on

    http://www.thepositivemind.com/tpm/radio_frame.php

    Go under “Recent radio programs (click to listen)”

    Scroll to “The Question of Nature vs. Nurture” and click it and listen to the program. It may make here reaction more understandable.

    Toute

  • Eksqwizit
    on

    Toute :)
    You remind me of me :) all that writing and all!!! LOL

    Nice read!!!!

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